Sunday, December 11, 2005

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Well eating and drinking everything I came across finally caught up to me. I'm now sick. It took a week of drinking whatever water was offered to me and eating whatever food I was around. Though in the winter time my immune system has a hard time any way. I can't sleep with a quilt over my body and head, so I just sleep with it over my body and I forget about my head so my body stays warm and my head stays cold. This is what happened to me this time. My stomach of steel was a little weaker because my immune system was weaker. And the germs attacked. Anyway, it was just today that I've been sick so I still have a lot of nice pictures and I'm still going to get more pictures.
This was my view when walking to the nivas (where I was staying) from town. The nivas where we were staying.
The Baba Atal tower where I took the above photo and others.
Bhai Joginder Singh Riar and jetha playing at the Bhog for the sehaj path before Balwinder's wedding. After the Gurdwara we got to talk with him (through Balwinder) and he gave us some vcd's of his kirtan. I thought that was nice.

23 comments:

Anonymous said...

sad to hear u finally got travelers diarrhoea.try to drink mineral water only and do not eat anything from food vendors from the street,even people living in india(middle class)avoid them.It should get better on its own,drink plently of fluids or antibiotic norflox(easily available in india over the counter)taken for 3-4 days can be helpful in travelers diarrhoea.
enjoy holidays

Anonymous said...

Be really careful with food and water. It is not just your immune system. Water in India is not really safe to drink. You may want to check CDC's website on informationo related water-borne diseases( I think it is under traveler's information) Also, Always eat cooked food. Avoid tomatoes, cucumber, salad etc. Hope you get better soon.

Anonymous said...

Sat Shri Akal!

Sorry to hear about your healthproblems! Please be careful with water, i am home from Amritsar for a forthnight now. Never been so sick in my life, because i brushed my teeth with tapwater!!!Please be careful!
love,
manpreet

if you have some spare time, please visit Pingalwara. The work of Bhagat Puran Singh is so great. Every sevadar should see this.
I did not leave my heart in Darbar Sahib, but in Pingalwara.

Anonymous said...

I know you've been interested in learning some classical instruments. On your way to Chandigah, stop ove at a village of Namdhari sikhs, called Bhaini Shib. They've some excellent teachers, one of them is young Baldev Singh, he plays dilrubha and can speak good English, also he comes to US quite ofte.
WJKK WJKF

Anonymous said...

hey prabhu,

Snaps are cool. Can you upload more photos with Balli, Bhabi and the barat. Balli is not picking up the phone. Best wishes to him anyway.
Nilesh Suhas NM

Vicky Singh said...

Ahhh.. exact thing happened to me when i was in india last year. I was there for two weeks after long 6 years and i was sick for almost 10 out of 14 days. I was cautious on my eating habits but still germs caught me! Wishing you best luck on your recovery! Love the aerial picture of the building !

Sarvjeet said...

To all critical veers....

I ve been living in North America since 1998 and I ve made 5 trips back home since then. As soon as I land there, I drink water coming right out of the tap... People in India drink that too and they dont have any problems.... I had no problems ever either... The water coming outta the tap is well treated in the treatment plants. You guys might have a weak immune system. No offense. Yes, drinkin w
ater outside ur house may be a lil tricky.... so buy bottled water, or coke/pepsi...

Even if it gives you some trouble, I think the love and affection that you get there is much much more than the sufferrings... So please my brothers, stop projecting India as you people are, so that someone will least want to visit there reading your comments on the blog. And Kudos to Bhai Prabhu Singh, as I have never seen him complaining in his blog... He is enjoying his trip to the fullest. Coz, "Jaan Ka Meet Sajaan Ho Sammiya, Us Jaan Ko Kaho Kaa Ki Kamiya".....

Guru Fateh...

Anonymous said...

HAHA.. broo.. you said you visited 5 times since 1998.. that like every year.. Maybe THATS the reason you don't get sick.. cauz you body adapts to its food/water system. PPls who visit after years of years definately WILL HAVE problem from tap water, whether one does have weak immune system or not. I never had trouble with any other country but with india ! Seriously you need to stop defending something that is not correct BLAH!

sarvjeet said...

I am neither defending anything that is not correct, nor am I trying to offend anyone. Whatever one have in luck, shall he receive no matter where you go. Be it diarrhoea, cancer, Hep, AIDS etc... etc...

And may be one should go to India more often for 2 reasons... one you will get benefit visiting the land where our Gurus lived and drank the water from the wells straight outta the ground (those days there were no taps and water never used to get any treatment before being used for human consumption) and two, one will develop a stronger immune system...

Anonymous said...

""Whatever one have in luck, shall he receive no matter where you go. Be it diarrhoea, cancer, Hep, AIDS etc... etc... ""
I have to question this statements. 40 million people in the world are affeted with AIDS right now. It is not just luck?
Sad to see people reason diseaes like AIDS and HEP with luck. Have you ever heard about "prevention"
If you are in medical field you will not think like this...
I too love simple life in India Still that does not mean people should not have access to clean water.

sarvjeet said...

Just because you or some other ABCDs think that people do not have access to clean water in India doesnot make it true. If such was the case then India would not have been number 2 in worlds population (after China) as there would have been so many deaths. Well, the truth is that people like you give India a bad name. Contamination in water can be any where. Have you heard of Hinkely, CA where the coporation P G & E contaminated the ground water by using hexavalent chromium in their power generating plants. People vs. P G & E, where P G & E was made to pay people of Hinkely $ 333 milliones. you should go to India for a longer period to experience how technologically advanced India is. a 2-3 weeks trip will only give you a view of poor India, not the riches it has. Major chunk of the outsourcing US does goes to people workin in India and if all in India were drinkin un hygenic water, then no deadline would have been met as they all would have been sick and home, not working, and the US companies would have switched their sources from India to some other country...

As far as the stats on AIDS, besides 40 milliones who have it, there are 25 milliones who have died so far of it. My point is prevention comes with education, and of those 45+25 mil. how many do you think knew of AIDS or its prevention. I believe you think all the world has been to colleges/university and they know about every epidemic. I feel for you guys who cannot cope up with the conditions in India. But that doesnot mean that what you experience there is applicable to everyone. So my veer dont try to push your point too hard just coz you or a few ABCDs get sick while visiting India.

By the way I am a post grad in sciences. And yes I believe in fate. based on your action, you recieve your dues from the almighty "Waheguru".

Anonymous said...

Sarvjeet,
I am not a ABCD. I grew up in rural Punjab. Therefore, may be I know more about India than you know about safe water, education, and disease prevention in rural India. I still don't agree with your statement about "Whatever one have in luck, shall he receive no matter where you go. Be it diarrhoea, cancer, Hep, AIDS etc... etc... ""
You must wonder why?
60% of womean in Africa are infected with HIV and 50% in India. According to one physician ( who treats HIV patients in New Delhi) sex workers are more empowered than middle class housewives in India. It is not that these middle class women have no education and therefor they know nothing about AIDS prevention. I just think we can't keep saying that diseases like AIDS are just luck.
Safe water issue- In my district the underground water is polluted and people don't have clean water supply for weeks. So what they do - they drink underground water. Water borne diseases are very common in these villages. I lived through it so don't tell me it is not true.
You still want to argue about this issue?

Sarvjeet said...

Now that you are speaking about area specific, I can understand what you are saying. But when you say it applies to whole of India, thats where I beg to differ with you. As I said in my comments earlier, water contamination can happen in any area in any country. A lot of people living in Florida also do not drink water from the faucets, instead the use bottled water to cook, drink etc... there is something in the ground water they say.

I was born in Delhi, and as my dad was in IAF (now he is retired, and settled in Delhi) I have been to all the corners of India, Including Punjab and areas worse than Punjab, like Assam. He was posted at three of the Air Force bases in Punjab. And until my dad was alloted an official accommodation on the campus, we stayed in "Pind" near by the Air Force bases. but believe me, I never had any such problem with water there either. We used to pump water outta the ground too. So, I will say that I was lucky. Or else I may have been in some area like you are talkin about and I would have suffered. But I guess it was not a part of my life by the grace of Waheguru. You and me are both humans you had to go thru all what you are saying and at the same time I was in Punjab too, but in an area not so bad that I didnot suffer. I think this is what is called FATE. This also shows that water is not the same in all of the Punjab either.

I dont know how much you are into "Bani", but it has been referenced many time in Bani that you get in your life, what you deserve, based on the actions you commit, not only in this life, but what you did in your previous lives. But you dont have to agree me on this, if you dont think it is so. It is my point of view, based on the experience, and what ever little of the bani I may have understood. I don’t know what r u talking about when you say, sex worker / house wives / empowerment and based on what one physician has to say, I don’t have to change my beliefs.

By the way Veer, i am here not to arguee with you or anyone else.. I am just writing what I know, and responding to what information I think is incorrect. And you have all the rights to disagree. No hard feelings...

Anonymous said...

"By the way Veer, i am here not to arguee with you or anyone else.. I am just writing what I know, and responding to what information I think is incorrect. And you have all the rights to disagree. No hard feelings..."
I not a veer though! however that does not matter. I too was just trying to write what I know and what informatin I think is incorrect. I work with projects related to AIDS in developing counteries. People have many myths about AIDS and so I think it is not right to say that all this diseases are result of one's fate.
I too believe in Bani.
"I dont know how much you are into "Bani", but it has been referenced many time in Bani that you get in your life, what you deserve, based on the actions you commit, not only in this life, but what you did in your previous lives."
"Yes! you get in your llife, what you deserved based on the actions you commit. I agree with this line. For me this means that I don't lie, I am honest and work hard in my life.

Sarvjeet said...

Anonymous said... "Yes! you get in your llife, what you deserved based on the actions you commit. I agree with this line. For me this means that I don't lie, I am honest and work hard in my life."

Good for you... then you shold not worry about any thing as Waheguru will be your "Aung Sung". Pl. chk with Waheguru of the other lives you had been thru that you were as honest, truthful and hard working as you claim in this life... (((It is not ones job to judge self or anyone though)))... thats the job of almighty wahrguru...

from what I understand, I might have done a lot of sins in my past as I have been sent back on earth to repent for those sins or else Waheguru would have given me a place in Sach khand.... well, I would say that I am not a perfect Sikh... as you claim yourself to be, but i'm "work in progress"....

Anonymous said...

Sarvjeet,
No! I am not claiming that I am a perfect sikh. I am just saying that we should speak truth, work hard, and be honest. This is what will affect the consequences of our actions. It is all about choice. I get what I choose. Also, i don't beleive in Waheguru to get in Sach Knnd ( how selfish is that!!!)

sarvjeet said...

Anonymous said... "I get what I choose. Also, i don't beleive in Waheguru to get in Sach Knnd ( how selfish is that!!!)"

You must be really an "Enlightened Soul" that "you get what you choose" and that you "dont need Waheguru to attain Sach khand"... Well, I'm not that fortunate or I'd say enlightened. May be you can share with us how to attain such high state of mind.

Any wise person who could get what he/she choose, definately would not have choosen to come into this world... probably would have choosen to get to Waheguru (that is purpose of coming into human form of life)... coz once he is attained, all the rest has no meaning

ਿੲਕ ਿਸੰਘ said...

sarvjeet, water in india is dirty and polluted. you can get Hep A, B, C from drinking that water. This is a scientific fact, you can't argue with what you see with a microscope. and as someone else pointed out you visit "your" country way too often to be not "immune" eventhough immune isn't the right word for it.

india is a third world country and like every third world country there're gonna be sanitary issues. it's okay though...it doesn't make "your" country bad or it doesn't make people change their minds about going to "your" country. mexico is a bit more advanced than india but their water supply has issues as well but people still go to mexico in record numbers every year.

calm down! if you really want to know how it feels...don't go there for about 5 years and then go and drink your tap water "as soon as you get off the plane" see how the "ABCD's" feel...

stop telling us how we should feel and stop telling us how our immune system is week. india is the second most populous country because of lack of education and common sense (actually both of them go hand in hand)!!!! not because they have higher sanitary standars than rest of the world (exactly the opposite)...

geezie peezie!!! ignorance is blitz!!!

Sarvjeet said...

ਿੲਕ ਿਸੰਘ saab,

America is the only country with educated people and where common sense prevail.... And where safe drinking water is free flowing... no wonder why all of the Punjab is moving here.... no wonder why Bush still won 2nd term.

Mexico is advanced than India... I wonder why so many Mexicans risk their life crossing into US.

There is no safe water available in India, I wonder why so may planes packed to full capacity land everyday bringing NRIs to land of sickness.

On your blog itself I read that you started off with bottled water and then switched to tap water and nothing horrible happened to you. I am quoting what you say under Tricks and Tips for Travel to India/Punjab ====>

"About water, it just depends upon where you go and how your body handles it. When I went, I started with bottled water, but after a few days I just drank regular water and I didn't get sick or anything. I was worried about my American born 12 yr old daughter since her immune system probably not used to the Indian, and took extra precaution. But she felt fine the whole trip, even drinking the nalka water a few times. Bottled water is available all over stores. In restaurants, make sure they don't bring a water bottle that is already open. Most people are nice and people are people everywhere, you will find all kind in Punjab as well. Just go with your gut feeling if you feel something is not right. Also, if you are really worried, drink tea and not water since it is boiled already."

Based on your onw experience, there is nothing wrong with water in India, except for some area specific... which you also say on your blog that "About water, it just depends upon where you go and how your body handles it."

You are contradicting your reply to my post, youself. There are lots of people in US who would not drink water running for the faucets, but they use bottled water... and anyone is free to do so, weather you live here or in India or any where else.... but that dosenot means that the water in that place is not fit for drinking....

sarvjeet said...

ਿੲਕ ਿਸੰਘ saab,

I am sorry, It may not be you who posted the above info. on your blog, but it is on your blog which means you agree to it.

sarvjeet said...

ਿੲਕ ਿਸੰਘ saab,

Also, i forogt to mention, it is almost 3 yrs that I visited India last... and with in a yr I plan to visit and drink that same water from the same tap.... and I'm 100% sure it wont be any problem. I'll keep you posted on that.

ਿੲਕ ਿਸੰਘ said...

sarvjeet, people who resort to sarcasm usually do so because they can't support their argument with facts.

mexico is more advanced than india? AND you're questioning that by wondering why they're crossing over to america? Yeah? and So??? did i say mexico is more advanced than america? i said mexico is more advanced than india...last time i checked no mexican was risking their life going over to india for better living. Actually the opposite is true!

you're just being silly, in a cute way. i guess i find it cute cuz my dad and brother think with their heart just like you do. i guess it's the jat way innit?!

but yeah...about my travel blog...i'm going to be updating it pretty soon in a week or so...i've found some more good stuff.

sarvjeet said...

ਿੲਕ ਿਸੰਘ saab,

and what facts are you supporting your comments with sir? I will still say that just coz you or a few handfull of people say water in India is no good, doesnot make it a fact. Food taste a lot better cooked in India than here. In fact when I used to live in India, I had a chance to goto Punjab for 6 months in regards to my work. My diet significantly improved than what it was when I lived in Delhi. And I also understand the fact that depending on area, there may be some problem with water contamination, which can be any where, I know of cases in Florida as well, where people use bottled water. But I will never agree to when it is said that water all over India is not fit for drinking.

and yes, you should update your blog soon. you should not have the information on it that you donot support as NRIs will be risking their lives by going to India reading your tips on travel.