Thursday, December 01, 2005

More samagam pictures

Gurpal Singh looking sharp, just before the Anand Karaj.
Premdeep Singh, nice young man.
Enjoying a meal before the Anand Karaj starts.
Speaking of marriage. This picture could be used for a matrimonial ad. You could just crop Gagan and make an ad for him and crop Gurpal and make an ad for him, that's how good they look.
This is where I sat originally, but I was't feeling it so I moved up to the front.
I went to get batteries for my camera, but those batteries were charged even less. This picture was taken from the hotel parking lot.
Another picture from where I first sat down.
As Jagjeet was entering the Gurdwara there was a log jam behind her :-)
The couple standing for the ardaas.
The couple. This was the best picture I got before my batteries died.
Remember the really cute boy with his hands folded? this is his really cute sister.
Kamalpreet Kaur
Heera Singh taking a moment to reflect, or maybe he's sneezing, he'll have to clarify.
This is the only picture of me from the weekend. This is me in a fake meditation.
Ajinder Singh took the cheesy photo above and then posed for this somewhat cheesy photo. The thing is this photo is real nice. Japman Singh, Ajinder Singh, and Heera Singh.
Remember the cute kids from the Las Vegas samagam, here they are with their dad. I love these kids, they are sooooooooooooooooooooooo cute. The father is Jagjeet Singh, the boy is Navjot Singh and the girl is Baljot Kaur. Later that day, these beautiful children did beautiful kirtan!

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

Prabhu, were you invited to a wedding in LA? Is that why you visited LA?

Prabhu Singh said...

I went for both the samagam and the wedding. I met the couple at a samagam in Dallas in February this year. I went to the samagam in LA in March this year and I really enjoyed it then. I've been to a few samagams this year and I have really enjoyed each one. I went to Albuquerque in January, Dallas in February, LA in March, Las Vegas in October, and LA in November. If I get the chance I'll go to Dodra for the samagam in December.

Parvinder Singh said...

Singh,
The smagam which u are talking or have attended are organized by Dodra Sangat.As their headquarters is in Dodra pind in Panjab.
I 'hope' that u do a research about this people in detail.Yes,I know they do Simran and kirtan.But,once Akal Takht issued a hukamnama stating to not to be in their company.I won't say much,just that u should u know who they are and what they believe in.

Prabhu Singh said...

I learned a few things from this discussion:
http://akj.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=529&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=30da6976c370ae0b18d9ceb565994b40
mostly I learned that the hukamana was not directed at the sangat from Dodra, but was against holding programs where meat and alcohol or other disrespectful things occur (at the same time).
I have to say from personal experience I really enjoy the samagams, otherwise I wouldn't go. I had wondered from the begining who these people were, since it is a lot of the same people at the samagams. Then I learned that these samagams were founded in Dodra and that this sangat is close and come together to organize these samagams. They are totally open to everybody and they don't try to push any thing on you. I would like to learn more about the man they call Bhau ji, just as I'd like to learn more about Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh, and Bhagat Puran Singh, and Jarnail Singh Bindranwale. I have learned and will always learn more from the teacher who brought so much into my life. I consider myself a Sikh and I enjoy kirtan and simran and seva and sangat. When people get together to sing Gurbani, I'm going to like it. I don't care what teacher or jatha people associate with. We are all Sikhs of the Guru.
The thing about these samagams is that they have them listed on a website with contact information. You simply tell them you are coming and they arrange everything. I would like to attend an AKJ samagam, but I can't find a schedule and I don't know the protocol. I've even wondered if I'd be allowed into an AKJ samagam? Of course the kirtan and simran is the best part, but I also appreciate getting to know more sangat. People have been open to me and not judgemental.
If I go to a samagam and people start to tell me that I do things wrong or kick me out, I'm definitely not going to come back. What I know about this sangat as that they don't judge who is there, if you enjoy kirtan you're welcome there.
I will eat any food that is lovingly prepared for me, whether the preparer is Amrit Dhari or not. I will eat food that is not served in an iron bowl. I will change my kacheras by taking one pair off and putting the other one one. I have good reasons for all of this, which I can explain, but if I am unacceptable or wrong to people than I don't want to be around those people. I definitely follow a strict rehit, but it doesn't include some of the practices of others, sometimes I feel like I couldn't go to other sangats because they would try to threaten or coerce me into following their rehit.
I don't feel like my differences of opinion are any reason to seperate myself from any Sikh. In truth I believe Gurbani is best sung in the title raag. The entire Siri Guru Granth Sahib was organized by raag, but the raag is ignored in most Gurbani these days or the shabad is played in a different raag. However, I think nagar kirtan, or akhand kirtan, or whatever it is called is also great. When is Gurbani not great? I'm comfortable with who I am and I don't wish to argue with people who don't understand my way of life. I prefer the company of people who want to share Gurbani. My experience is that this sangat wants to share and they share some of the things that are most important to me. If I ever experienced something that I didn't agree with then I would stop attending, but for now I just go and enjoy kirtan and simran and seva and sangat.

Anonymous said...

Prabhu -

While in India are you going to be updating your blog? Whats the purpose of your visit? Are you just planning to visit Delhi?

Regards,

Raj

Prabhu Singh said...

I'm going to try and update my blog. I'm going to India because one of my best friends Balwinder Singh is getting married in his home town of Chandighar. You can find pictures of Balwinder on this blog, if not, there will surely be pictures at his wedding.

prits k.r. said...

prabhu veer,

your reply to parvinder singh's comment was very strong.

from personal experience, i was once stopped from doing kirtan from a certain 'group' because i didn't 'look' like them. i went to sit on stage with other kirtani's but was denied.

the Gurudwara was full of pavitar sangat, and i walked around Guru Maharaj, with my head held low, and my heart broken. i still attend this 'groups' kirtans and samagams, i have to anger or hate towards them...i simply go for the love of kirtan, simran, and the kirtani's.

i stopped doing kirtan after that for a long long time. however, that was my mistake! in my opinion, the bhai sahib of that 'group' who told me that i couldn't do kirtan made a bigger mistake. no group, no matter who, can stop anyone from doing kirtan.

then after a couple of years, i met somone from this sangat, and refreshed my mind and soul about the importance of simran, sangat, kirtan and sewa.

whenever i have the chance, i attend samagams. all i have to say is Guru ji's sangat is so pyaari, so pavitar it always seems to amaze me over and over again.

sangat is sangat...there is no form, no rule or law that is required to become a part of sangat. if Siri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj is present, everyone in Guru Sahib's court is sangat.

people seem to be wasting their time over and over trying to downgrade different 'groups'. put that time towards your Sikhi and the love for other 'groups' will grow stronger.

i don't consider myself a part of any 'group' nor will i ever...i belong to my Guru's, to Vaheguroo the only Truth.

this is just my pea-size opinion.

-prits k.r

parvinder singh said...

Wjkk wjkf!
First of all,in my comment above did I say *anything* bad(negetive) about them???I just REQUESTED to u that u see the hukamnama by Akal Takht,what ur opinion/views are is ur human right....I didn't in anyway try to impose what i believe in or know.

Second of all,from where did AKJ come from???What does it has to do with what I said.Did I say I was a Taksali,Akj,Nanak Saria or 3HO?Prabhu singh jee,MOST of the misunderstanding which happen in our lives are because we ASSUME thing!I just said that u do some research...what ever u do is ur wish..who am I to tell u to what to do?I just thought it was my duty to remind u...thats all*.
You said,
I've even wondered if I'd be allowed into an AKJ samagam? Of course the kirtan and simran is the best part, but I also appreciate getting to know more sangat.
............................
First of all...u said u haven't been to any akj smagam....and then u say would they ever allow u IN?This is what I mean by ASSUMING things or what u have heard from other people.I believe in going for anywhere there is Keertan and saddangat according to Gurmat......and not staying in whatever group u like to be in.
You said,
I will eat any food that is lovingly prepared for me, whether the preparer is Amrit Dhari or not. I will eat food that is not served in an iron bowl. I will change my kacheras by taking one pair off and putting the other one one.
............................
They u go attacking what other people believe in.Who is stopping u?Do as u wish .....it seems to me that u care very much what people think and say about urself.....
AND what u called an Iron bowl is called Sarabloh da Batta........Guru Gobind Singh sahib Maharaj mentions it about Sarabloh in Dasam Granth and Sarabloh Granth....infact Guru jee named the Granth as sarabloh granth....Just do ur researh and LEARN how to respect Sarabloh.Have u ever wondered why amrit is only prepared in Sarabloh da batta(what u call as an iron bowl)????PLease do some research about it.
You said,
I would like to learn more about the man they call Bhau ji, just as I'd like to learn more about Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh, and Bhagat Puran Singh, and Jarnail Singh Bindranwale. I have learned and will always learn more from the teacher who brought so much into my life.
..........................
Please refer the Gursikh who gave his life for Sikhi in 1984 as Baba/Bhai Sahib Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale.......
In gurmat a Sikh can ONLY have one teacher that is Guru Granth Sahib Maharaj jeo....thats what Guru mean..a teacher...Gurmukhs u have mentioned( not including bhau jee) have set an EXAMPLE for us...as how these Gurmukhs lived are an example for us to follow NOT to ADMIRE anyone other than Guru Granth Sahib Maharaj.I am very disappointed at what u said...maybe u were MISinformed or didn't know.Since u said about other people judgin U,everything starts from US.....then don't judge other too!I didn't want to be rude...but I didn't expect such a negetive reply with MANY assumptions.....

Bhul Chuk Maph,
Guru And Sang....

Prabhu Singh said...

I didn't think my post was negative and I wasn't really assuming anything. You are assuming that I don't know what Sarbloh is or what is the sarbloh granth. I was just saying I live my life by experience. I follow a strict rehit, but it is not the same rehit as everybody else. Guru Gobind Singh gave respect to Sarbloh and he gave respect to the five k's but he didn't give the exact rehit of changing kacheras one leg at a time, that was the teaching of someone else.
You don't want me to learn from anybody but the Guru and you want me to refer to people as Bhai Sahib, do you see a disconnect?
I'm not making any assumptions about anything. I'm simply stating that I've wondered what my reception would be amongst other sangats. I don't worry about the reception at the samgams. I know they will be welcoming and non-judgemental and we will do simran and kirtan.
You have judged me and told me what to do, ASSUMING that I'm ignorant. Live and let live. I appreciate the warning, but I don't think it is necessary. Truth is high, still higher is truthful living. If people are treating me well and others are being judgemental and narrow-minded, who's truth am I going to appreciate more?

Sarvjeet said...

Thats the whole point Prabhu Veerjee. We are no one to judge others. That is the the job of the Supreme. We go to sat sang, do so many paaths and still are where we began. i too started going to these samagams a few yrs ago thought that I will continue going there if I am inspired. I tried to attend as many possible; as I felt that there is nothing unusual going on there. I was inspired to that extent that I got baptized at one of the samagams. For the last yr or so, I havent been able to attend due to health/finiancial constraint. I wish I will soon be able to resume joining the congregation by the blessings of Waheguru and the love of Sadh Sangat.

Simarjit Singh said...

Sangat ji, you can get more information about Dodra Sangath on their official website: http://brahmbungadodra.org

Waheguru ji ka khalsa, Waheguru ji ki fateh.

Jasleen said...

"I would like to attend an AKJ samagam, but I can't find a schedule and I don't know the protocol. I've even wondered if I'd be allowed into an AKJ samagam? Of course the kirtan and simran is the best part, but I also appreciate getting to know more sangat. People have been open to me and not judgemental."

i know this is old, but in case you're still wondering...

you can find a schedule of upcoming samagams on akj.org. the "protocol" is the same as any other visit to any other gurdwara. and everyone is welcome, again, just like every gurdwara in the world. i'm also from a non-punjabi background and i have found AKJ sangat to be the MOST accepting and open of any sangat i have met. both in america and in india. i can't imagine you not being accepted unless you did something disrespectful, which i don't think you'd do.

i hope you have a chance to visit a samagam and let us know what you think.

waheguru ji ka khalsa, waheguru ji ki fateh!